Let’s start the day with the national anthem of Setnaffaria.
Song of Setnaffaria
Verse I On a very legal patch of land, We drew a brand-new line, With a Sharpie and a master plan Scribbled out in wine. No more forms, no more experts, No more facts to check, Just vibes, resolve, and confidence And a glorious flag we’ll spec.
Chorus Oh Setnaffaria! Loud and proud! The greatest, some have said, A perfect nation, huge and strong, At least inside our head. We’re winning big, we always were, Despite what maps may show, Setnaffaria marches on In tweets and overflow.
Verse II With trusted friends from far away Who swear they mean us well, They loan us tanks and talking points And promise not to tell. From Beijing’s scripts to Moscow’s nods, Such generous advice! They say our freedom’s very real (Just don’t read the fine-print twice.)
Chorus Oh Setnaffaria! Bold and new! Uncancelled, free, and loud, A nation built on grievances And feelings deeply proud. We’ve got the best beliefs around, The strongest truths by far, Setnaffaria shines so bright It blinds the fact-check czar.
Bridge We love free speech so very much We shout it into law, Unless you disagree with us, Then that’s a serious flaw. Courts are fake, but justice real, As long as we agree, And every loss is rigged, of course— Except our victories.
Final Chorus Oh Setnaffaria! Stand and cheer! Salute the chosen few, Where loyalty is currency And facts are optional too. So raise the flag (design TBD), And sing both near and far, Setnaffaria forever reigns— The best that never was.
Stephen
2 months ago
USA, USA, USA
3-0 at half-time against Paraguay.
I have to credit setnaffa for his skillful use of bots to deceive CH into believing that Buzz Aldrin didn’t walk on the moon.
CH [to Buzz Aldrin]: You didn’t walk on the moon.
Buzz Aldrin [channelling Moe Howard] Why I oughta …
Buzz Aldrin at the age of 76 did, of course, pop Bart Sibrel for denying the Apollo moon landings.
Good old Buzz, still alive at 96 years of age; a credit to the USAF.
ChickenHead
2 months ago
“3-0 at half-time against Paraguay”
Fake news.
There is no such thing as a score of 3 in soccer.
That’s why soccer is a 3rd world game.
America wants a game that reflects America’s winning mentality.
The third world is delighted with a game where any kind of a win is a rare event as a bunch of people run around in circles with zero accomplishment beyond faking indignation and injury, as it reflects 3rd world society and geopolitics.
A typical soccer score of 1 and maybe 2 does not reflect the win of a skilled team. It is below the margin of error.
Gawking at football, basketball, and baseball are all only one step above.
Cage fighting, bull riding, and chariot racing are for men. Everything else is for something less.
Vincant Veneti!
(Soccer is down there with watching bowling, competitive fishing, and women’s golf)
Stephen
2 months ago
Cage fighting …
I can just imagine setnaffa getting it in the ring in El Paso whilst shouting Viva pelea de gallos!
… if he wasn’t already in St Petersburg.
ChickenHead
2 months ago
Setnaffa is built like a 1950s refrigerator.
He would mangle in the cage.
Stephen
2 months ago
Ja, those DDR fridges were built pretty sturdy.
Good old Ost-Berlin.
setnaffa
2 months ago
Phteven thinks he’s scoring points; but he really just needs to change his red diapers.
ChickenHead
2 months ago
Setnaffa, have you considered working for Jaguar’s advertising agency?
Johnnyboy
2 months ago
If I were of the belief that there were only one or two real people here and the rest were bots, I certainly wouldn’t keep coming back to engage with them.
Personally, I have held conversations with the old heads here since around 2010 so I won’t be buying in to the nonsense.
Gikorea knows our emails and likely our IP addresses as he had to identify and punish people for posting as others at one point in time.
Who are you hoping to persuade?
If it’s an attempt at humor, you have beaten the joke to death.
These constant accusations of bots serve no purpose. The people who enjoy speaking to each other here don’t really care what you have to say or how you feel about us.
Loud and frequent repetition of the same phrases or accusations is a low IQ or mentally ill behavior often found on police body cam videos.
Strange that a few outsiders here have come to the same random conclusion about the same longtime regular poster without any evidence or logical reasoning provided.
Almost like a coordinated effort by people who don’t care about the effectiveness. Just trying to fit a square peg into a round hole over and over without regard to time spent on a fruitless effort.
My guess is either one person with multiple accounts sponsored by some individual or group or multiple socially retarded individuals who latched onto what they think is intelligent lines of conversation trying to put points on a scoreboard in a game no one here is really interested in playing.
setnaffa
2 months ago
CH, Jaguar is part of the collapsing pre-Albion Caliphate. I would probably not lift a hand for them.
OTOH, there are companies I do support; but under my other name…
Johnnyboy
2 months ago
Is it just me or is the whole thing about taking Trump’s name off the Kennedy center basically throwing the leftists a bone to make them feel like they won something?
They had to spend time and money to go to court to argue something most people probably don’t care about.
Even when they win, they are still losers.
ChickenHead
2 months ago
Johnnyboy,
Of course your points about the Korea Thing(s) are valid but they do not need to be discussed.
Everybody with enough intelligence not to poop in the bathtub is well aware of this.
The Korea Thing(s):
– have nothing more in life than babbling complete nonsense on the internet to people who not only don’t care but also openly mock them… as, in such an empty life, bad attention is better than no attention
– really don’t know it is pointless because they are on the retard spectrum… the evidence certainly points in this direction
– the Chinese pay them by the word to disrupt civil society, will eventually be found out that they are grifting their handlers, and will be executed and thrown in a grave they helped dig.
– to keep conversation going, GI Korea runs a random sentence generator that selects from the book “The Dumbest Phrases and Concepts in the English Language”
Joshua Lee
2 months ago
I bet Korea thing is sad China isn’t in the World Cup.. ever.. LOL
Johnnyboy
2 months ago
“Everybody with enough intelligence not to poop in the bathtub is well aware of this.”
I always wondered where those Baby Ruth bars came from. It all makes sense now.
Korean Person
2 months ago
The Setnaffarians forget that this all started when they used the term “chinabots” to describe those who didn’t agree with them.
That included treating pro-American views as the default Korean position and branding dissenting Koreans as “Chinese ten cent army” or “California leftists,” a line of thinking that which is rooted in ethnic stereotyping.
I’ve decided to give the Setnaffarians a taste of their own medicine.
The result?
Now, the Setnaffarians are playing victim.
Which was expected and amusing to say the least.
Last edited 2 months ago by Korean Person
ChickenHead
2 months ago
When there is bot-like behavior that is ant-Korean and subtly pro-China, it may be a chinabot. Even if not an algorithm, the “person” is functionally a bot through pay or ideological programming.
The facts support my proposed theory.
Claiming that everyone who disagrees with whatever nonsense you are pushing is a bot running on Setnaffa’s imaginary laptop farm is not a serious allegation to the point it is a self-clown rather than a “taste of their own medicine”.
Nobody is playing victim because nobody has been victimized. Your nonsense is annoying but it is not offensive.
You are just a buffoon and ridiculing somewhat mentally challenged people such as yourself on the internet makes me feel even better about myself.
So I hope you never change and you never leave.
Korean Person
2 months ago
Future bestseller
ChickenHead
2 months ago
I prefer the other book…
How Korea Became Successful Under Right Wing Capitalist Leadership While Commies and Socialists Have All Given Up or Failed
Korean Person
2 months ago
Another version of the proposed cover
Korean Person
2 months ago
Considering that @setnaffa doesn’t like flag waving a version without the flag waving
ChickenHead
2 months ago
What is “HATE” exactly.
The left manipulates the dummies with concepts rather than facts.
Bonus Thought: It is perfectly reasonable to “hate” those trying to exploit you. Hate keeps you safe.
ChickenHead
2 months ago
The recent cross burning accompanied by a by a grainy picture of the rearward profile of a whitish person of interest in a picture with the brightness turn up to 11 and the color temperature set from sunlight to albino has been solved.
Sit down for this.
The far right white supremacist responsible for this is an anti-Trump leftist Asian… which is consistent with the photo once the colors were reset so stoplights no longer looked teal and magenta.
His selfless action brings attention to all the racism and bigotry, just as other heroes such as Tawana Brawley, Jussie Smollett, and the owner of the Rainbow Lounge have done before him.
Like a sèx offender registry, there should be a fake racism registry.
When race hoaxers are caught, they get put on a list and are banned from possessing ski equipment and coming within 1000 feet of a gated community.
James Whitlock
2 months ago
So much winning.
No regime change.
No improvement on human rights in Iran.
No deal on limiting uranium enrichment.
Billions in taxpayer money gone.
Lives of service members gone.
Billions going to Iran to rebuild.
The best we got was getting the Strait open again which was open before this debacle started.
The only way to feel like your empty and pointless existence has any meaning is to try attaching it to concepts like “fighting racism”, “saving mankind from climate change”, and “allowing children to express their true gender preferences even if it has to be done through deception”.
So pointing out that pretty much all racist attacks are fake invalidates the tiny bit of worth you have tried to carve out as a person.
Your downvote makes sense as reality is an existential threat to your mental health.
Anyway, your attack on the Iran agreement shows you clearly don’t understand what happened. You don’t even understand the goals or the issues.
This is a an excellent agreement, which you clearly don’t understand… as you have been told by the anti-American media to hate it… and Trump… and America.
Short Verison:
Regime change and punishment were never primary goals. “Human Rights” has never, and will never, be a goal and you are silly for bringing it up.
Bringing Iran into the global economy while ending their nuclear, missile, and terror proxy programs were goals… and they have all been accomplished at an amazingly cheap price for the future benefit.
The goals will stay accomplished because Trump understands carrots and sticks.
Iran now has a face-saving chance to prosper. That is a nice carrot. If they go back to their old ways, Trump will easily use military force again.
The only real danger is that some Obama-grade appeaser will eventually become president and Iran will go back to their old tricks while America does nothing.
Your first clue here is to notice all the Iranian hard-liners and American chickenhawks hate this agreement.
We can discuss this point by point…
…if you have it in you.
Or you can just whine.
Protip: not everything in your complaint is even factual
Stephen
2 months ago
President Lee Jae-myeong, who is attending the G7, seven countries summit, held a conversation with U.S. President Donald Trump on the 16th, local time, regarding security issues on the Korean Peninsula.
Kang Yu-jeong, Cheong Wa Dae senior spokesperson, stated through a written briefing, “President Trump asked President Lee about the current status of inter-Korean relations, and President Lee requested that President Trump lead the peaceful resolution of the Korean Peninsula conundrum, just as he resolved the Middle East war.”
In response, President Trump said, “I will bomb Joseon back to the Stone Age.
To which President Lee responded, “You mean you’re going to bomb Pyongyang … because the rest of Joseon is still in the Stone Age”.
Park Sang-ki, Joseon Ilbo, 2026/06/17, 11:00
Korean Person
2 months ago
A book which details the eventual fate of the Setnaffarians
James Whitlock
2 months ago
CH
When you start out your post with insults, it negates anything further you have to say. But that’s always been your style. You use a lot of big words, heap insults, and in the end, don’t really say anything at all.
From the beginning, the administration stated that the goals of the war were regime change, destroying Iran’s military capabilities, and putting an end to their nuclear program. Yep, we bombed the heck out of them, that we did. In return, they made most of the bases we used in the ME totally useless. All we heard was how terrible the deal was that Obama had made previously but it sure looks like the current deal is even worse but of course you’ll never admit it.
Ok, allegedly, the strait will soon reopen but guess what, it was open before this started so where’s the big win? What else was accomplished except thousands killed, munitions depleted, and money spent?
Thanks. I’ll save people some time. This all centers around the premise that the Democrats had dirt so serious on Trump TPTB had to hold an emergency meeting last July because it was so devastating. And they kept it to themselves. Just as a reminder this is the same group that found a secretly recorded conversation on tape in the 1980s where Trump said the word “p*ssy” and they spent the next ten years screaming about that one. Also, they hired a foreign operative to fabricate evidence that they could turn in to the infiltrated intelligence agencies to spy on Trump and anyone associated with him during the running of his campaign (and leaked these fabricated “findings” to the media at the time). Cherry on top, they lifted the statute of limitations to specifically apply to the exact timeframe when a person with a well documented history of mental instability and false claims wanted to make a claim against him without evidence beyond her good word. There are scores of other examples, but that’s enough to make the point.
They did this…but kept the real dirt on Trump under wraps, until oh gosh…Trump became president. And now that all his friends are in the positions of power this information that never got out before is the real threat. Okay.
Liz
2 months ago
I don’t know how “most of the bases in the ME” are “totally useless” now? Scott Ritter claim that? The same Scott Ritter whose information was in large part the basis for the invasion of Iraq? And that was when his information was fresh and he actually in a position to know?
ChickenHead
2 months ago
“When you start out your post with insults, it negates anything further you have to say.”
That’s quite a claim from a gay guy with a fat mom.
At least you are smart.
Johnnyboy
2 months ago
Personally the fact that they had the ability to shut down the strait the whole time should be enough to try and take away that ability. I didn’t understand their efforts to build up capabilities to screw everyone until they put them on display.
Maybe they never would have if we hadn’t acted but we can’t know that for sure. At least the whole world has been forced to come to terms with the fragility of free passage and the fact they have a stake in making sure Iran sticks to some sort of frame work.
I hear less outrage from the UN and EU crowd so maybe they are getting the picture.
On a side not, it’s difficult to get an honest accounting of the situation on the ground in Ukraine but i find it interesting that it seems Russia is having a tougher time these past few months. I have to wonder how much of their warfighting abilities were bolstered by Iran’s drone program.
Anyways, let’s all hope Iran is sincere and recognize it is likely in their best interest to play ball. If not, we are probably in for more conflict unfortunately.
Chickenhead is right again, this guy even put a MAGA hot on top of the cross like he was trying to upstage the fakery of Jussie Smollet. At this point it is arguable there is more fake racists than real racists out there:
In his interview with NBC Chicago’s Chuck Goudie, University of Illinois Chicago senior Merlin Lu said he knew the implications of a burning cross and had placed a MAGA hat atop the cross, explaining his motivation was to protest Trump administration injustice – not something racist.
“How did you land on a burning cross?” Goudie asked.
“Just it came up to my head one day,” Lu said. “I wanted to find something that I could do by myself, like no organization, no friends…”
“I did know about this historical relevance beforehand, but I didn’t know the severity, how racially motivated it may seem from what I did,” he said. “Cause my protest has nothing to do with race, nothing to with gender.”
Goudie: “Should you have done it some other way?”
Lu: “Yeah, probably.”
Lu is a 21-year-old Naperville native.
Previous video showed him playing tennis at Neuqua Valley High School, where he graduated in 2022.
Last week, Lu sent a scripted video to NBC, claiming responsibility for the cross burning but saying he had no affiliation with the Ku Klux Klan, apologizing to those who were offended. In the video he also criticized President Donald Trump.
“I don’t want to wait till his term ends,” he said. “I don’t wanna wait until he may or may not get impeached. I want him gone right now.”
Goudie: “On that video are you threatening him?”
Lu: “No.”
Goudie: “You say that you think he should be brought to an end.”
Lu: “I think no, I said, I said he deserves to stand trial to the American people, some paraphrase, I guess, but…”
Goudie: “You use the word end.”
Lu: “That’s what I mean. By end, I don’t mean like a civil war, if that’s the imagery that you’re trying to imagine.”
You can read much more from his interview at the link. How much you want to bet this guy has few to no friends, no girlfriend, and sits on the Internet and listens to MSNBC all day to get radicalized like this?
@Liz, it is amazing the mental hurdles leftists will go through when it comes to Trump. They expect us to believe that the Democrats held all this dirt on Trump and Epstein and didn’t release it when they were in power?
Korean Person
2 months ago
Now that @GIKorea , @setnaffa and the Setnaffarian bots are all in lockstep regarding their support of Trump and his war in Iran, let’s compare the Obama and Trump nuclear deals
Parts of the Obama deal regarding uranium enrichment
Iran will not engage in activities, including at the R&D level, that could contribute to the development of a nuclear explosive device, including uranium or plutonium metallurgy activities, as specified in Annex I.
Based on its own long-term plan, for 15 years, Iran will carry out its uranium enrichment-related activities, including safeguarded R&D exclusively in the Natanz Enrichment facility, keep its level of uranium enrichment at up to 3.67%, and, at Fordow, refrain from any uranium enrichment and uranium enrichment R&D and from keeping any nuclear material.
Iran will begin phasing out its IR-1 centrifuges in 10 years. During this period, Iran will keep its enrichment capacity at Natanz at up to a total installed uranium enrichment capacity of 5060 IR-1 centrifuges. Excess centrifuges and enrichment- related infrastructure at Natanz will be stored under IAEA continuous monitoring, as specified in Annex I.
As Iran will be phasing out its IR-1 centrifuges, it will not manufacture or assemble other centrifuges, except as provided for in Annex I, and will replace failed centrifuges with centrifuges of the same type.
During the 15 year period, and as Iran gradually moves to meet international qualification standards for nuclear fuel produced in Iran, it will keep its uranium stockpile under 300 kg of up to 3.67% enriched uranium hexafluoride (UF6) or the equivalent in other chemical forms.
The Trump deal
The Islamic Republic of Iran reaffirms that it shall not procure or develop nuclear weapons. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran have agreed to resolve the disposition of stockpile and rich material pursuant to a mechanism that will be mutually agreed upon in accordance with the schedule mentioned in Paragraph 7, with the minimum methodology to be down-blending on-site under the supervision of the IAEA. The two parties also agreed to discuss the issue of enrichment and other mutually agreed matters related to the Islamic Republic of Iran’s nuclear needs, based on a satisfactory framework being agreed upon in the final deal. The final deal will confirm the provisions of this paragraph. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran acknowledge the critical importance of the nuclear issues above mentioned and express their attention to immediately direct these issues in the negotiation in order to achieve mutual agreement on them.
So what concrete measures did Trump achieve when it comes to preventing Iran from gaining a nuclear weapon, compared to Obama?
Korean Person
2 months ago
What is more laughable is the Persian Gulf deal
Upon the signing of this MOU, the Islamic Republic of Iran will make arrangements, using its best efforts, for the safe passage of commercial vessels with no charge for 60 days only, from the Persian Gulf to the Sea of Oman and vice versa.
Safe passage with no charge for 60 days only? LMAO
And the part where it certainly seems the Iranians got the best of Trump
The United States of America undertakes with regional partners to develop a definitive, mutually agreed plan with at least USD $300 billion for the reconstruction and economic development of the Islamic Republic of Iran.
So thanks to the person that the MAGA helped elect, the US is going to pay off Iran.
Considering that under Trump, the US debt exceeded US$39 trillion, no doubt the needless war started by Trump and supported by MAGA will help the US debt achieve new records.
Korean Person
2 months ago
There’s also the question of a potential PRC invasion of Taiwan where some analyst are predicting will happen in 2027.
Trump depleted the US munition stockpile thanks to his decision to go to war with Iran and giving Xi the impression that the US will stay out of any conflict between the PRC and Taiwan, no doubt that the invasion may become a reality.
Not surprising considering that @GIKorea and @setnaffa are being funded by China.
Who knows maybe the entire MAGA sphere is being funded by China.
setnaffa
2 months ago
Sounds like the Korea thing needs attention…
Mad Bob
2 months ago
The only difference between this deal and Obama’s is Obama didn’t have to ask Congress for an additional $350 billion to replenish our arsenal, he didn’t strain relations with our allies because Obama had our allies sign the agreement, Obama didn’t cause worldwide inflation, the Strait never closed, and 13 US service members and 180 Iranian school kids did not die. Trump literally tore up the Obama deal and then 8 years later signs a worse deal. “LOSER!”
ChickenHead
2 months ago
“Trump depleted the stockpile.”
So a few bombing runs on Iran depleted the stockpile but if that hadn’t happened, there would have been enough for a prolonged war with China.
Do you even own a calculator?
The most effective weapon against China will be economic sanctions and sanctions on anyone who deals with them.
…and they are not ready for this.
…which is why they haven’t invaded Taiwan… and won’t unless the situation changes.
Korean Person
2 months ago
So nice of @setnaffa to chime in with proof that he @GIKorea and his Setnaffarian bots have no solid and logical counter arguments to my points.
ChickenHead
2 months ago
“So what concrete measures did Trump achieve when it comes to preventing Iran from gaining a nuclear weapon, compared to Obama?”
Nobody knows.
Only the framework for negotiations was decided and not the actual deal.
While the Obama deal allowed Iran to eventually make a nuclear weapon, the Trump framework clearly states that Iran won’t build a nuclear weapon and everything will be verified. Iran has agreed to this broad statement.
The beauty is that if negotiations break down, it is cheap and simple to restart the blockade.
The threat of that restarting is far worse than negotiating during the blockade when it is being endured.
This is a pretty clever tactic.
Johnnyboy
2 months ago
I would venture that having your military set back years and your maritime access subject to blockade is a hell of an incentive. If it wasn’t they probably wouldn’t have come to the table.
For whatever reason, the only countries Obama and the other neocons/neolibs were willing to stand up to were countries where ruthless strong men in charge were serving as gatekeepers holding back swarms of refugees eager to share their cultural enrichment with the Europeans. Saddam, qadaffi, and assad would never have let millions of people pass through their borders unchecked.
Basically, the Iranians negotiated from a position of power with the Obama admin. They negotiated at an objective disadvantage with Trump. I grant you it may not work out in the end but what was the alternative?
Let them keep advancing their nuclear,drone and ballistic missile programs undeterred?
Whether you want to admit it or not, they needed to be taken down a few pegs and reminded they are simply a regional power so the rest of the world can conduct business without them threatening the strait and their neighbors who happen to be partners of the US.
Korean Person
2 months ago
Maybe the author should consider ChickenHead and Johhnboy’s comments when finishing this book.
Korean Person
2 months ago
We all know what will happen to Setnaffaria
Johnnyboy
2 months ago
The strait was open before the conflict began.
But……
Was free passage through the strait under any threat from Iran before the conflict began?
Should Iran have the ability to threaten free passage through the strait?
If the answer is no, who has the ability and strategic interest in preventing Iran from threatening free passage through the strait?
The Europeans, UN, and all the gulf nations knew this calculus when the conflict began but some had to put on a show for everyone about how the US is terrible and needed to stop, while secretly they were glad we were doing the heavy lifting.
If not for us, you would all be shipping in farsi.
Stephen
33 minutes ago
@Mad Bob
There is no money for CV-72 because … billions of bucks are being splooged on erecting the Trump ballroom on the demolition site of the former East Wing of the White House.
In honor of President Trump, DC locals are affectionately dubbing the Trump ballroom The Brown House.
Let’s start the day with the national anthem of Setnaffaria.
Song of Setnaffaria
Verse I
On a very legal patch of land,
We drew a brand-new line,
With a Sharpie and a master plan
Scribbled out in wine.
No more forms, no more experts,
No more facts to check,
Just vibes, resolve, and confidence
And a glorious flag we’ll spec.
Chorus
Oh Setnaffaria! Loud and proud!
The greatest, some have said,
A perfect nation, huge and strong,
At least inside our head.
We’re winning big, we always were,
Despite what maps may show,
Setnaffaria marches on
In tweets and overflow.
Verse II
With trusted friends from far away
Who swear they mean us well,
They loan us tanks and talking points
And promise not to tell.
From Beijing’s scripts to Moscow’s nods,
Such generous advice!
They say our freedom’s very real
(Just don’t read the fine-print twice.)
Chorus
Oh Setnaffaria! Bold and new!
Uncancelled, free, and loud,
A nation built on grievances
And feelings deeply proud.
We’ve got the best beliefs around,
The strongest truths by far,
Setnaffaria shines so bright
It blinds the fact-check czar.
Bridge
We love free speech so very much
We shout it into law,
Unless you disagree with us,
Then that’s a serious flaw.
Courts are fake, but justice real,
As long as we agree,
And every loss is rigged, of course—
Except our victories.
Final Chorus
Oh Setnaffaria! Stand and cheer!
Salute the chosen few,
Where loyalty is currency
And facts are optional too.
So raise the flag (design TBD),
And sing both near and far,
Setnaffaria forever reigns—
The best that never was.
USA, USA, USA
3-0 at half-time against Paraguay.
I have to credit setnaffa for his skillful use of bots to deceive CH into believing that Buzz Aldrin didn’t walk on the moon.
CH [to Buzz Aldrin]: You didn’t walk on the moon.
Buzz Aldrin [channelling Moe Howard] Why I oughta …
Buzz Aldrin at the age of 76 did, of course, pop Bart Sibrel for denying the Apollo moon landings.
Good old Buzz, still alive at 96 years of age; a credit to the USAF.
“3-0 at half-time against Paraguay”
Fake news.
There is no such thing as a score of 3 in soccer.
That’s why soccer is a 3rd world game.
America wants a game that reflects America’s winning mentality.
The third world is delighted with a game where any kind of a win is a rare event as a bunch of people run around in circles with zero accomplishment beyond faking indignation and injury, as it reflects 3rd world society and geopolitics.
A typical soccer score of 1 and maybe 2 does not reflect the win of a skilled team. It is below the margin of error.
Gawking at football, basketball, and baseball are all only one step above.
Cage fighting, bull riding, and chariot racing are for men. Everything else is for something less.
Vincant Veneti!
(Soccer is down there with watching bowling, competitive fishing, and women’s golf)
Cage fighting …
I can just imagine setnaffa getting it in the ring in El Paso whilst shouting Viva pelea de gallos!
… if he wasn’t already in St Petersburg.
Setnaffa is built like a 1950s refrigerator.
He would mangle in the cage.
Ja, those DDR fridges were built pretty sturdy.
Good old Ost-Berlin.
Phteven thinks he’s scoring points; but he really just needs to change his red diapers.
Setnaffa, have you considered working for Jaguar’s advertising agency?
If I were of the belief that there were only one or two real people here and the rest were bots, I certainly wouldn’t keep coming back to engage with them.
Personally, I have held conversations with the old heads here since around 2010 so I won’t be buying in to the nonsense.
Gikorea knows our emails and likely our IP addresses as he had to identify and punish people for posting as others at one point in time.
Who are you hoping to persuade?
If it’s an attempt at humor, you have beaten the joke to death.
These constant accusations of bots serve no purpose. The people who enjoy speaking to each other here don’t really care what you have to say or how you feel about us.
Loud and frequent repetition of the same phrases or accusations is a low IQ or mentally ill behavior often found on police body cam videos.
Strange that a few outsiders here have come to the same random conclusion about the same longtime regular poster without any evidence or logical reasoning provided.
Almost like a coordinated effort by people who don’t care about the effectiveness. Just trying to fit a square peg into a round hole over and over without regard to time spent on a fruitless effort.
My guess is either one person with multiple accounts sponsored by some individual or group or multiple socially retarded individuals who latched onto what they think is intelligent lines of conversation trying to put points on a scoreboard in a game no one here is really interested in playing.
CH, Jaguar is part of the collapsing pre-Albion Caliphate. I would probably not lift a hand for them.
OTOH, there are companies I do support; but under my other name…
Is it just me or is the whole thing about taking Trump’s name off the Kennedy center basically throwing the leftists a bone to make them feel like they won something?
They had to spend time and money to go to court to argue something most people probably don’t care about.
Even when they win, they are still losers.
Johnnyboy,
Of course your points about the Korea Thing(s) are valid but they do not need to be discussed.
Everybody with enough intelligence not to poop in the bathtub is well aware of this.
The Korea Thing(s):
– have nothing more in life than babbling complete nonsense on the internet to people who not only don’t care but also openly mock them… as, in such an empty life, bad attention is better than no attention
– really don’t know it is pointless because they are on the retard spectrum… the evidence certainly points in this direction
– the Chinese pay them by the word to disrupt civil society, will eventually be found out that they are grifting their handlers, and will be executed and thrown in a grave they helped dig.
– to keep conversation going, GI Korea runs a random sentence generator that selects from the book “The Dumbest Phrases and Concepts in the English Language”
I bet Korea thing is sad China isn’t in the World Cup.. ever.. LOL
“Everybody with enough intelligence not to poop in the bathtub is well aware of this.”
I always wondered where those Baby Ruth bars came from. It all makes sense now.
The Setnaffarians forget that this all started when they used the term “chinabots” to describe those who didn’t agree with them.
That included treating pro-American views as the default Korean position and branding dissenting Koreans as “Chinese ten cent army” or “California leftists,” a line of thinking that which is rooted in ethnic stereotyping.
I’ve decided to give the Setnaffarians a taste of their own medicine.
The result?
Now, the Setnaffarians are playing victim.
Which was expected and amusing to say the least.
When there is bot-like behavior that is ant-Korean and subtly pro-China, it may be a chinabot. Even if not an algorithm, the “person” is functionally a bot through pay or ideological programming.
The facts support my proposed theory.
Claiming that everyone who disagrees with whatever nonsense you are pushing is a bot running on Setnaffa’s imaginary laptop farm is not a serious allegation to the point it is a self-clown rather than a “taste of their own medicine”.
Nobody is playing victim because nobody has been victimized. Your nonsense is annoying but it is not offensive.
You are just a buffoon and ridiculing somewhat mentally challenged people such as yourself on the internet makes me feel even better about myself.
So I hope you never change and you never leave.
Future bestseller
I prefer the other book…
How Korea Became Successful Under Right Wing Capitalist Leadership While Commies and Socialists Have All Given Up or Failed
Another version of the proposed cover
Considering that @setnaffa doesn’t like flag waving a version without the flag waving
What is “HATE” exactly.
The left manipulates the dummies with concepts rather than facts.
Bonus Thought: It is perfectly reasonable to “hate” those trying to exploit you. Hate keeps you safe.
The recent cross burning accompanied by a by a grainy picture of the rearward profile of a whitish person of interest in a picture with the brightness turn up to 11 and the color temperature set from sunlight to albino has been solved.
Sit down for this.
The far right white supremacist responsible for this is an anti-Trump leftist Asian… which is consistent with the photo once the colors were reset so stoplights no longer looked teal and magenta.
His selfless action brings attention to all the racism and bigotry, just as other heroes such as Tawana Brawley, Jussie Smollett, and the owner of the Rainbow Lounge have done before him.
Like a sèx offender registry, there should be a fake racism registry.
When race hoaxers are caught, they get put on a list and are banned from possessing ski equipment and coming within 1000 feet of a gated community.
So much winning.
No regime change.
No improvement on human rights in Iran.
No deal on limiting uranium enrichment.
Billions in taxpayer money gone.
Lives of service members gone.
Billions going to Iran to rebuild.
The best we got was getting the Strait open again which was open before this debacle started.
Here’s the full 14 point MOA between the US and Iran:
http://www.yahoo.com/finance/economy/policy/articles/read-the-14-point-draft-memorandum-between-the-us-and-iran-220917023.html
Thanks for the downvote, James.
The only way to feel like your empty and pointless existence has any meaning is to try attaching it to concepts like “fighting racism”, “saving mankind from climate change”, and “allowing children to express their true gender preferences even if it has to be done through deception”.
So pointing out that pretty much all racist attacks are fake invalidates the tiny bit of worth you have tried to carve out as a person.
Your downvote makes sense as reality is an existential threat to your mental health.
Anyway, your attack on the Iran agreement shows you clearly don’t understand what happened. You don’t even understand the goals or the issues.
This is a an excellent agreement, which you clearly don’t understand… as you have been told by the anti-American media to hate it… and Trump… and America.
Short Verison:
Regime change and punishment were never primary goals. “Human Rights” has never, and will never, be a goal and you are silly for bringing it up.
Bringing Iran into the global economy while ending their nuclear, missile, and terror proxy programs were goals… and they have all been accomplished at an amazingly cheap price for the future benefit.
The goals will stay accomplished because Trump understands carrots and sticks.
Iran now has a face-saving chance to prosper. That is a nice carrot. If they go back to their old ways, Trump will easily use military force again.
The only real danger is that some Obama-grade appeaser will eventually become president and Iran will go back to their old tricks while America does nothing.
Your first clue here is to notice all the Iranian hard-liners and American chickenhawks hate this agreement.
We can discuss this point by point…
…if you have it in you.
Or you can just whine.
Protip: not everything in your complaint is even factual
President Lee Jae-myeong, who is attending the G7, seven countries summit, held a conversation with U.S. President Donald Trump on the 16th, local time, regarding security issues on the Korean Peninsula.
Kang Yu-jeong, Cheong Wa Dae senior spokesperson, stated through a written briefing, “President Trump asked President Lee about the current status of inter-Korean relations, and President Lee requested that President Trump lead the peaceful resolution of the Korean Peninsula conundrum, just as he resolved the Middle East war.”
In response, President Trump said, “I will bomb Joseon back to the Stone Age.
To which President Lee responded, “You mean you’re going to bomb Pyongyang … because the rest of Joseon is still in the Stone Age”.
Park Sang-ki, Joseon Ilbo, 2026/06/17, 11:00
A book which details the eventual fate of the Setnaffarians
CH
When you start out your post with insults, it negates anything further you have to say. But that’s always been your style. You use a lot of big words, heap insults, and in the end, don’t really say anything at all.
From the beginning, the administration stated that the goals of the war were regime change, destroying Iran’s military capabilities, and putting an end to their nuclear program. Yep, we bombed the heck out of them, that we did. In return, they made most of the bases we used in the ME totally useless. All we heard was how terrible the deal was that Obama had made previously but it sure looks like the current deal is even worse but of course you’ll never admit it.
Ok, allegedly, the strait will soon reopen but guess what, it was open before this started so where’s the big win? What else was accomplished except thousands killed, munitions depleted, and money spent?
Here’s a bonus read for you 🙂
https://www.facebook.com/itsalovelylife/posts/pfbid02E4W5aUJfJcvaVj6AX8udtyvD78sZKXnAQWwFkJoNjncJjWJ58zvYqGvjJeWFLYPHl
“Here’s a bonus read for you”
Thanks. I’ll save people some time. This all centers around the premise that the Democrats had dirt so serious on Trump TPTB had to hold an emergency meeting last July because it was so devastating. And they kept it to themselves. Just as a reminder this is the same group that found a secretly recorded conversation on tape in the 1980s where Trump said the word “p*ssy” and they spent the next ten years screaming about that one. Also, they hired a foreign operative to fabricate evidence that they could turn in to the infiltrated intelligence agencies to spy on Trump and anyone associated with him during the running of his campaign (and leaked these fabricated “findings” to the media at the time). Cherry on top, they lifted the statute of limitations to specifically apply to the exact timeframe when a person with a well documented history of mental instability and false claims wanted to make a claim against him without evidence beyond her good word. There are scores of other examples, but that’s enough to make the point.
They did this…but kept the real dirt on Trump under wraps, until oh gosh…Trump became president. And now that all his friends are in the positions of power this information that never got out before is the real threat. Okay.
I don’t know how “most of the bases in the ME” are “totally useless” now? Scott Ritter claim that? The same Scott Ritter whose information was in large part the basis for the invasion of Iraq? And that was when his information was fresh and he actually in a position to know?
“When you start out your post with insults, it negates anything further you have to say.”
That’s quite a claim from a gay guy with a fat mom.
At least you are smart.
Personally the fact that they had the ability to shut down the strait the whole time should be enough to try and take away that ability. I didn’t understand their efforts to build up capabilities to screw everyone until they put them on display.
Maybe they never would have if we hadn’t acted but we can’t know that for sure. At least the whole world has been forced to come to terms with the fragility of free passage and the fact they have a stake in making sure Iran sticks to some sort of frame work.
I hear less outrage from the UN and EU crowd so maybe they are getting the picture.
On a side not, it’s difficult to get an honest accounting of the situation on the ground in Ukraine but i find it interesting that it seems Russia is having a tougher time these past few months. I have to wonder how much of their warfighting abilities were bolstered by Iran’s drone program.
Anyways, let’s all hope Iran is sincere and recognize it is likely in their best interest to play ball. If not, we are probably in for more conflict unfortunately.
Chickenhead is right again, this guy even put a MAGA hot on top of the cross like he was trying to upstage the fakery of Jussie Smollet. At this point it is arguable there is more fake racists than real racists out there:
You can read much more from his interview at the link. How much you want to bet this guy has few to no friends, no girlfriend, and sits on the Internet and listens to MSNBC all day to get radicalized like this?
@Liz, it is amazing the mental hurdles leftists will go through when it comes to Trump. They expect us to believe that the Democrats held all this dirt on Trump and Epstein and didn’t release it when they were in power?
Now that @GIKorea , @setnaffa and the Setnaffarian bots are all in lockstep regarding their support of Trump and his war in Iran, let’s compare the Obama and Trump nuclear deals
Parts of the Obama deal regarding uranium enrichment
The Trump deal
So what concrete measures did Trump achieve when it comes to preventing Iran from gaining a nuclear weapon, compared to Obama?
What is more laughable is the Persian Gulf deal
Safe passage with no charge for 60 days only? LMAO
And the part where it certainly seems the Iranians got the best of Trump
So thanks to the person that the MAGA helped elect, the US is going to pay off Iran.
Considering that under Trump, the US debt exceeded US$39 trillion, no doubt the needless war started by Trump and supported by MAGA will help the US debt achieve new records.
There’s also the question of a potential PRC invasion of Taiwan where some analyst are predicting will happen in 2027.
Trump depleted the US munition stockpile thanks to his decision to go to war with Iran and giving Xi the impression that the US will stay out of any conflict between the PRC and Taiwan, no doubt that the invasion may become a reality.
Not surprising considering that @GIKorea and @setnaffa are being funded by China.
Who knows maybe the entire MAGA sphere is being funded by China.
Sounds like the Korea thing needs attention…
The only difference between this deal and Obama’s is Obama didn’t have to ask Congress for an additional $350 billion to replenish our arsenal, he didn’t strain relations with our allies because Obama had our allies sign the agreement, Obama didn’t cause worldwide inflation, the Strait never closed, and 13 US service members and 180 Iranian school kids did not die. Trump literally tore up the Obama deal and then 8 years later signs a worse deal. “LOSER!”
“Trump depleted the stockpile.”
So a few bombing runs on Iran depleted the stockpile but if that hadn’t happened, there would have been enough for a prolonged war with China.
Do you even own a calculator?
The most effective weapon against China will be economic sanctions and sanctions on anyone who deals with them.
…and they are not ready for this.
…which is why they haven’t invaded Taiwan… and won’t unless the situation changes.
So nice of @setnaffa to chime in with proof that he @GIKorea and his Setnaffarian bots have no solid and logical counter arguments to my points.
“So what concrete measures did Trump achieve when it comes to preventing Iran from gaining a nuclear weapon, compared to Obama?”
Nobody knows.
Only the framework for negotiations was decided and not the actual deal.
While the Obama deal allowed Iran to eventually make a nuclear weapon, the Trump framework clearly states that Iran won’t build a nuclear weapon and everything will be verified. Iran has agreed to this broad statement.
The beauty is that if negotiations break down, it is cheap and simple to restart the blockade.
The threat of that restarting is far worse than negotiating during the blockade when it is being endured.
This is a pretty clever tactic.
I would venture that having your military set back years and your maritime access subject to blockade is a hell of an incentive. If it wasn’t they probably wouldn’t have come to the table.
For whatever reason, the only countries Obama and the other neocons/neolibs were willing to stand up to were countries where ruthless strong men in charge were serving as gatekeepers holding back swarms of refugees eager to share their cultural enrichment with the Europeans. Saddam, qadaffi, and assad would never have let millions of people pass through their borders unchecked.
Basically, the Iranians negotiated from a position of power with the Obama admin. They negotiated at an objective disadvantage with Trump. I grant you it may not work out in the end but what was the alternative?
Let them keep advancing their nuclear,drone and ballistic missile programs undeterred?
Whether you want to admit it or not, they needed to be taken down a few pegs and reminded they are simply a regional power so the rest of the world can conduct business without them threatening the strait and their neighbors who happen to be partners of the US.
Maybe the author should consider ChickenHead and Johhnboy’s comments when finishing this book.
We all know what will happen to Setnaffaria
The strait was open before the conflict began.
But……
Was free passage through the strait under any threat from Iran before the conflict began?
Should Iran have the ability to threaten free passage through the strait?
If the answer is no, who has the ability and strategic interest in preventing Iran from threatening free passage through the strait?
The Europeans, UN, and all the gulf nations knew this calculus when the conflict began but some had to put on a show for everyone about how the US is terrible and needed to stop, while secretly they were glad we were doing the heavy lifting.
If not for us, you would all be shipping in farsi.
@Mad Bob
There is no money for CV-72 because … billions of bucks are being splooged on erecting the Trump ballroom on the demolition site of the former East Wing of the White House.
In honor of President Trump, DC locals are affectionately dubbing the Trump ballroom The Brown House.