ROK Drop Open Thread – December 16, 2023

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Korean Person
Korean Person
4 months ago

Well, it seems that Trump intends to make a deal with Kim Jongeun if he becomes President again.

Donald Trump is considering a plan to let North Korea keep its nuclear weapons and offer its regime financial incentives to stop making new bombs, according to three people briefed on his thinking.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/13/trump-north-korea-nuclear-weapons-plan-00131469

The irony of this situation is that under Biden there were no deals with North Korea and there were plenty of joint ROK-US military exercises for the viewing pleasure of and the Setnaffarians.

If Trump becomes President, there will be a deal where North Korea keeps its nukes while getting cash and lifting of sanctions, which GIKorea and the Setnaffarians are opposed to.

That is in addition to the reduction of USFK and the joint military exercises which will certainly make a bad day worse for GI Korea and the Setnaffarians.

Not only that Yoon will become a laughingstock and be left out of any dealings between Trump and Kim, which will certainly be a loss for S. Korea since South Korean companies won’t be able to participate in any business dealings with a newly opened North Korea.

Certainly shows that GIKorea, the Setnaffarians and their beloved Yoon are dumb and short-sighted.

Maybe setnaffa, CH, and the other Setnaffarians should vote for Biden and hope he gets elected. 😀

setnaffa
setnaffa
4 months ago

Chinabot, really do pray that you will repent and be saved. Hell is a real place; and you need not go if instead you ask the Lord to save you (Romans 3:23, 5:8, 6:23, 8:1, 10:9-10, 10:13).

Korean Man
Korean Man
4 months ago

Well at least Trump realizes the reality. Whether the world allows NK to keep their nukes or not, it doesn’t matter. North Korea will keep their nuke programs, nobody is going to change that. That’s the reality. It is how we deal with that reality that matters the most. Trump will negotiate with North Korea, as well as China, to get more US economic benefits. This is not necessarily bad in my opinion, to sign the peace treaty, and finally lift sanctions on North Korea. The peace dividend will benefit everyone.

Then people will raise questions about worsening geographic conditions with South Korea’s enemies now given wider birth after Trump gets elected. But I have a different view on this.

It is up to South Korea to fight for its interests instead of depending on the US. That means SK gaining control of its military and stopping overestimating US promises of a nuclear defense shield which is non-existent in reality. The US has a very poor track record. Just look at how the US made promises to Ukraine convincing them to de-nuclearize after the Cold War, in return for protection. We all know what happened after Ukraine gave into US pressures. Ukraine today would not be in the position that they are in today if it had kept its nuclear weapons. Now after 2 years of conflict, Ukraine is being dropped and kicked aside by the US, as there is no more financial and military support coming from the US. Ukraine is now doomed because it can’t defend itself. Let this be a lesson to South Korea and others who are not Israel.

The US is in no shape and neither does it have the morals nor the will to intervene in foreign military conflicts unless foreign conflicts directly affect its energy needs. It is up to each country to defend themselves – something that dumb Yoon thing and its rightwing cronies have yet to realize. These stupid idiots think the US support will be there forever. This is what endangers South Korea the most – the incompetence from within.

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Korean Man
Korean Man
4 months ago

A British woman is in hospital after a Korean stalker set fire to her.

https://www.reddit.com/r/korea/comments/18jotr6/a_man_set_fire_to_the_face_of_a_british_female/

Terrible thing to do to a woman, I hope the perp gets punished hard. One thing I noticed though with the comments pointing to the weak Korean justice system.

Then I have a question about this. With such a horrible justice system, how has South Korea kept its streets safe for walking alone at night without getting robbed or hassled by drugged-out homeless panhandlers? With a horrible justice system, why are there so many retail businesses with no human clerks that are thriving? With such a horrible justice system that sucks, shouldn’t South Korea be flooded with criminals and repeat criminals who would clean out those clerk-less stores?

After all, with such a horrible justice system, shouldn’t South Korea be a crime capital of the world? Yet, South Korea is where people respect other people’s properties – they don’t destroy, vandalize, or steal them. There aren’t mass shootings of murderers in the news every day like in some countries with such supposed superior justice systems.

After all, with strong Western justice systems and a terrible South Korean justice system, shouldn’t crime be the highest in South Korea? But it’s the opposite. Why is that? Could it be that the strictness of the justice system has no bearing on lowering crime rates, but to a certain extent, contributes to higher crime rates?

Last edited 4 months ago by Korean Man
Korean Man
Korean Man
4 months ago

Only 1 in 4 of Korean women in their 20s say they want to marry.

https://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20231215000719

OK. Fair enough. But the number of Korean men in their 20s who want to marry is equally low. So this is a colossal cultural shift.

The article seems to be trying to subtly convince the readers that Korean women don’t want to marry Korean men anymore and that Korean men are now doomed. Even if that’s true (which is not), Korean men have far more options these days, as a flood of foreign women not just from Japan or the rest of Asia, but also foreign women from everywhere from Latin America, to Europe, to North America, and even Middle East are crooning for young Korean men. If Korean men in their 20s want to marry, they don’t have to do too much to find women from foreign countries. The pool of women to draw from to court, date, and marry is 200 times bigger.

Last edited 4 months ago by Korean Man
setnaffa
setnaffa
4 months ago

The best thi g about tbe chonabots is their absolute inability to summarize.

It proves they don’t have a grasp on the subject, the language, or their audience.

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setnaffa
setnaffa
4 months ago

The best thing about tbe chinabots is their absolute inability to summarize.

It proves they don’t have a grasp on the subject, the language, or their audience.

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Korean Man
Korean Man
4 months ago

The best thi g about tbe chonabots is their absolute inability to summarize.

Ironic when the Trumpbot can’t summarize yourself and has to repeat the same thing twice.

Last edited 4 months ago by Korean Man
ChickenHead
ChickenHead
4 months ago

“Then I have a question about this. With such a horrible justice system, how has South Korea kept its streets safe for walking alone at night without getting robbed or hassled by drugged-out homeless panhandlers?”

If you were a real Korean, you would know the answer to that question.

Also, the Korean justice system is horrible.

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
4 months ago

“Also, the Korean justice system is horrible.”

The downvotes just keep coming for that statement.

…but I guess it is a matter of persepective.

I probably wouldn’t feel that way if I was a rapìst.

So, keep downvoting…

…rapìsts.

Stephen
Stephen
4 months ago

Well, it seems that Trump intends to make a deal with Kim Jongeun if he becomes President again.

No worries, that won’t happen. Stock market at record highs, inflation coming down, unemployment down, gas prices down, consumers spending that money, and then, the (sane) majority of voters realize that while Biden is old and not the perfect choice, he’s done good and that voting for deranged criminal Trump would be a disaster for the US.

Stephen
4 months ago

“… he’s done good …”

Not my vernacular. I would have written “he has done very well …”.

Also tautology alert. Deranged is a synonym for trumpish. Criminal is a synonym for trumpish.

It’s all Catch-22 at AFB Mar-a-lago.

The sergeant then swished his scarf, pirouetted out the hangar door and cackled with deranged laughter.

The sergeant then swished his scarf, pirouetted out the hangar door and cackled with trumpish laughter.

Liz
Liz
4 months ago

Stephen, do you shop at the grocery store?
I’m sure the commissary is still relatively cheap, but out in the economy it is still crushingly expensive to buy pretty much anything.
Yeah, gas is down some at the moment. For the last 2 years it has been almost twice what it was 3 years ago. Food on the grocery shelves has doubled in 2 years. We’ve stopped going to restaurants for the most part (more than doubled, in some cases…because the businesses must pay double the food bill plus higher rent and much higher salaries all before attempting to get any profit).
Last month’s heat bill (natural gas) was twice the year before. Almost identical fuel usage when I compared last year’s numbers.
People have short term memories, but not that short term. They can remember food has doubled in a couple of years even if it goes down 10 percent in a couple of months (which I haven’t noticed).

Last edited 4 months ago by Liz
Liz
Liz
4 months ago

Per the market, Warren Buffet just sold 28 billion worth of stock.

Liz
Liz
4 months ago

Candidly, I don’t think Trump will win. I think his candidacy makes it more likely we’ll get another 4 years of Biden. But please don’t pretend it’s because the economy isn’t terrible. Or that Biden’s presidency is anything but destructive and incompetent on every level.

I think at the end of the day too many people view Trump the way I see Hillary (and the Clinton crime family in general).
I wouldn’t vote for Hillary under any circumstances.
(the difference is I can cite a very long list of concrete reasons, not hoax based ones…but at the end of the day it doesn’t matter the motivation the nation is filled with people who will never ever support Trump)

Last edited 4 months ago by Liz
Stephen
4 months ago

Hi Liz, no I do not shop at the commissary. Please to be noting that the first comment under the Stephen moniker is an impostor.

It was an OK impersonation, good use of Jongeun for Jong-un but as every fule no, the correct romanization of 김정은 is Kim Jong-eun.

The style is also too didactic for me. I also don’t believe it is the work of CH, Tech Sergeant Naffa, KP or KA. It seems to be the work of some random interloper, who has timezoned out, thus likely to be rolling down the River of Han.

Gas prices are high mainly due to the Ukraine War. Gas prices are cheap in China, however, due to Putin sucking up to Xi Dada.

As for Trump. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Korean Man
Korean Man
4 months ago

Candidly, I don’t think Trump will win. 

Don’t be ridiculous of course he will. He just made a speech and said, “they’re pouring in from all over the world, from Africa, and from Asia, to poison the blood of America”. He’s saying all these populous things that his larger voter base would like to hear. That is the Trump advantage that he’s cashing in. Also Trump’s stated admiration and respect for Kim Jong Un, as one of his good friends, is also an appeal for certain segment of Americans who want to make peace with North Korea, in which then they can use that to pull all the US forces from Asia and take them all back home. Not that I would care.

Last edited 4 months ago by Korean Man
ChickenHead
ChickenHead
4 months ago

On a level playing field, Trump would win.

He is polling over Biden even in polls that are designed to shape opinion rather than report it.

(He beat Hillary because they believed their own polls and didn’t cheat enough.)

But it is unlikely (but not impossible) he will become president.

If they can’t lawfare him (which seems to be increasing his popularity), they will kill him.

Too many powerful people will lose their power in Trump’s America First environment.

I think 4 more years of Biden would be great.

Americans deserve what they accept.

Korean Man
Korean Man
4 months ago

If anyone wants to get a good laugh, just pay attention to this shitshow in America. The US is now a total joke now.

WTF are the current political leaders in South Korea that thinks the US is in any shape or any normalcy left to be leading South Korean national defence? Does any Korean want to let a crazy country in charge of defending South Korea, one that has a president voted by Americans (leading by a wide margin in the polls) that believes Kim Jong Un and Putin are a nice and respectable leaders?

Last edited 4 months ago by Korean Man
Stephen
4 months ago

thanks for the heads up on my imposter.

Yoon is pretty much a lame duck president now.

Former prosecutor seeing out the year by trotting around the global salon fueled by poktanju on the taxpayer dime.

Anyone else seen Yoon’s trot version of Gangnam Style; complete with ride ’em cowboy dance moves?

Last edited 4 months ago by Stephen
ChickenHead
ChickenHead
4 months ago

Korea Man:

Nothing going on in North Korea is nice or (the good kind) of respectable. But it is understandable.

But Russia is a different story.

Putin is probably the best leader of a nation right now.

This is reflected in his popularity which is… wait for it… over 80%.

In the western media, he is a cartoon villain. In the third world, he is a strongman. In Russia, he is comfortable.

He is also Russia First and doesn’t let (open) crossdressers and sodomites show off their dysfunction in the Kremlin. He seems to look down on pedophilia and he doesn’t sniff children. And those children don’t need two daddies.

A lot of people see those values in a positive way.

Considering his history, he is likely not nice. However for reasons ranging from accomplishing goals to vanity to wanting to be historical, he is quite respectable for transforming post-Soviet Russia into what it is becoming now.

…which is highly flawed but on an upward trajectory… unlike America which keeps finding new ways to fail.

Korean Person
Korean Person
4 months ago

I also don’t believe it is the work of CH, Tech Sergeant Naffa

So even Stephen acknowledges that setnaffa uses sockpuppets.

Stephen
4 months ago

Mariah Carey met with Joe and Kamala.

New single coming out for 2024.

All I want for Christmas is a majority of electoral college votes for you and you.

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