Open Thread – December 1, 2023

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ChickenHead
ChickenHead
5 months ago

For those of you following the slow trickle of information and events that are conditioning the public to accept covid vaccine reality in an incrementally soft and guided landing instead of figuring it out for themselves in anger, here is the latest:

Texas is suing Pfizer under consumer protection laws.

Let’s look at the key points.

– unlawful representation of the vaccine and attempting to censor public discussion of the product

– Pfizer claimed 95% effectiveness after a 2 month trial, but this was statistical manipulation. It was actually 95% “relative risk reduction.” This false claim “unduly influenced” consumer choice.

(We now know that “exceedingly rare” breakout cases were not rare at all.)

– Pfizer claimed the vaccine was durable even though they were warned they could only claim its effectiveness for two months, based on the study. Further, they withheld information that undermined claims of long-lasting effectiveness.

(We now know the protection was short lived. Anybody who knew viruses mutate came to the same conclusion before the vaccine was released, presumably including Pfizer scientists.)

– Despite doing no research on the possibility of the vaccinated still spreading covid, Pfizer falsly pushed the message that being vaccinated protected loved ones.

(It was clear early on from contact tracing that the vaccinated could catch and spread covid.)

– Pfizer sold a defective product, as now that the statistics are in, they show covid cases increased after the vaccine became common and some places saw more deaths with the vaccinated than unvaccinated.

(This was quite true in Korea, despite omicron being a more mild strain. More deaths among the vaccinated appear to be due to variances in batches. Some evidence points to this being intentional so comaprisons could be made between whatever variations were engineered.)

– When people pointed these things out, which were clear within months of the vaccine being introduced, Pfizer labled them “criminals” spreading “misinformation” and coerced social media platforms to silence them.

(You don’t really think those high-dollar pharmaceutical ads are to sell pills to people who don’t care about pill names? They are to buy dependence and cooperation from organizations they give a lot of money to.)

None of this is a surprise to anyone paying attention since covid started. Many people spoke of all those points within the year following the introduction of the vaccine.

The only surprising thing is something is being done.

I would like to say the public’s lethargy after finding out they were experimented on is surprising…

….but it isn’t.

Which is why most people deserve to be poor… and used by the apolitical and unideological ruling elite who find emotionally manipulating lesftist suckers is the shortest path to maintaining their wealth and power.

Mcgeehee
5 months ago

Yes, the vaccines were the worst offense against society, but a long list of COVID falsehoods can be added: COVID’s origin; masks and mask mandates; closing businesses, schools, churches, and whatever else; PCR testing and testing mandates; travel bans; indeed the list goes on …

There will be so many lawsuits submitted over the next two or three decades and beyond as more information (previously known as conspiracy theories) is revealed. Every law firm and every court in the nation will be consumed with COVID lawsuits.

If only there were a way to invest in a pact of COVID-suing lawyers now, we’d all make millions. That would be the new Tesla investment going forward.

setnaffa
setnaffa
5 months ago

Yep.

catturd
setnaffa
setnaffa
5 months ago

Are you old enough?

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Mcgeehee
5 months ago

Fair to say that anyone who continues going for more just hasn’t been paying attention.

This is from TODAY (not two years ago)

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ChickenHead
ChickenHead
5 months ago

They are animals!

Only ONE pediatric dose?

If the doctors cared and the parents were loving, children would get at least half their body weight in a vaccine drip over the course of 24 hours.

That’s the current recommendation, is it not?

I will have to check Pfizer’s unsold inventory and their current stock price before knowing the true dose.

If I was a general, I’d get a list of anybody who injected their helpless children with experimental substances¹ and make sure they never had any responsibilities that affected anything.

¹It is increasingly less “experimental” and more “evaluated as a failure”. What the hell is wrong with people? Who in the military is recommending it?

Mcgeehee
5 months ago

The WHO, WEF, and GAVI (Bill Gates’ Global Alliance for Vaccination Immunity) all enjoy diplomatic immunity in Switzerland. They can’t be held responsible for anything they do.

This four minute video features prominent Swiss citizen Pascal Najadi, son of World Economic Forum (WEF) cofounder Hussain Najadi, asking Swiss authorities to strip diplomatic immunity and arrest leaders of above organizations for injecting a known bioweapon into 5.7 billion people.

He highlights democide: like genocide but it’s murder by government

https://rumble.com/v3qf7ig-breaking-documentary-short-cutting-off-the-head-of-the-snake-geneva-switzer.html

Korean Man
Korean Man
5 months ago

Sigh…. the Yoon government, which has just gotten rid of all support centers for migrant workers now wants to import a lot more new foreign slave laborers (165K compared to last year’s 120K), to abuse, use, and throw away. He’s also determined to go ahead with bringing Filipina nannies, to abuse, erroneously siting “successes” in Hong Kong, Singapore, and UAE where abuses of these nannies from poor countries are ripe and infamous. What kind of man is Yoon, really?

https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/opinion/2023/12/202_364214.html

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ChickenHead
ChickenHead
5 months ago

“wants to import a lot more new foreign slave laborers (165K compared to last year’s 120K), to abuse, use, and throw away”×

Abuse, use, and throw away? What exactly do you want to do with slave labor? What else are they for?

It’s like if animals aren’t supposed to be eaten, why are they made of meat?

setnaffa
setnaffa
5 months ago

Humorous to read chinabots complaining about slave labor, considering how they mistreat Norkistanis and Uighurs (among others).

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
5 months ago

The Chinese treatment of the Uyghurs is a shocking display of… what’ that?

Muslim, you say?

Anyway, a shocking display of leniency on a culture with a track record of terrorism.

setnaffa
setnaffa
5 months ago

Actually, CH, the Muslims are amatuers compared to the CCP…

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
5 months ago

At least the Chinese have the decency to pretty much only kill people who live in China (and sometimes just over the border from China).

Outside of China, they make clean clothes, cook tasty noodles, supply slinky hookers, and keep to themselves.

Not my problem.

The Muslims stink up the cabs and do unspeakable things to underage white girls. They also seem to think the oil is theirs just because they are closer to it.

Besides, if it was a real problem, the Islamic world would “Stand with the Uyghurs”.

Korean Man
Korean Man
5 months ago

Humorous to read chinabots complaining about slave labor, considering how they mistreat Norkistanis and Uighurs (among others).

Trump, your leader/God, said he wants to negotiate with China for money in return for turning over Taiwan to China. lol.

Korean Man
Korean Man
5 months ago

I’m not sure why the MAGA Trumpbot maggots are bringing China into this discussion, but OK.

But Yoon has sparked a discussion in SK, about paying foreign workers to reflect wages in their own countries, which is ridiculous and immoral.

https://www.reddit.com/r/korea/comments/189qxiq/should_foreign_workers_wages_reflect_their_home/

The old men and leaders like Yoon are trying so hard to completely trash and destroy what’s left of South Korea’s international reputation. It’s embarrassing frankly.

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setnaffa
setnaffa
5 months ago

Great “new” Korean restaurant chain (4 stores) in the Dallas area. A little pricey due to inflation; but a welcome change in terms of selection, quality, and service! And of course the servers have robots to carry some of the food.

https://www.zzizimcarrollton.com/

setnaffa
setnaffa
5 months ago
setnaffa
setnaffa
5 months ago

Those nose-picking CCP thugs even attacked people in California, England, and South Korea.

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Korean Man
Korean Man
5 months ago

Trump maggots are now resorting to spamming.

Korean Person
Korean Person
5 months ago

It is amusing to see setnaffa go into an anti-vaccine rant when everyone else don’t give a shit about COVID-19 and vaccines.

setnaffa sure needs to let go of his vaccine envy.

We all know that he wanted to get his vaccine but was turned down on medical grounds and is miffed that he was discriminated against because of his nonvaccinated status. As such he’s taking it out using his various sockpuppets to spread fake news and misinformation about the vaccines.

Which gives one an idea of his mental condition.

Wonder if his Russian masters are happy with him wasting time and money on these anti-vaccine rants.

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
5 months ago

“It is amusing to see setnaffa go into an anti-vaccine rant when everyone else don’t give a shit about COVID-19 and vaccines.”

Just because everyone else doesn’t give a shít about COVID-19 and vaccines doesn’t mean they don’t give a shìt about everyone else.

There is an increased and unexpected mortality that correlates with vaccine uptake that is not going down. This is blamed on everything from lack of healthcare during lockdowns to global warming. But it tracks very well with vaccine uptake.

The same people who were talking about pandemics and running excercises that were coincidently similar to what happened during covid, are now talking about the “real” pandemic threat.

Covid was such a success at destoying the middle class, small business, weak nations, etc., that it would be a shame to stop giving a shít about such an amazing tool.

Reminding governemnt why you want no repeat will greatly lower the chance of repeat.

Not giving a shít will allow the government to mistake your apathy for acceptance.

And then you will learn that you are not as done with it all as you thought.

Korean Person
Korean Person
5 months ago

nose-picking CCP thugs even attacked people

From the use of racial slurs, one can be sure that the Setnaffarians don’t have anything logical to add to the discussion and thus cannot find logical points to argue against the logical points put forward by us Koreans.

Add the anti-vaccine rants that are a result of the vaccine envy of setnaffa, one can also be sure that the Setnaffarians are bored.

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
5 months ago

“nose-picking CCP thugs even attacked people”

What filthy racist said that? Wait? Racism? Where?

Nose pickers? They are of every race, especially Chinese.

Communists? Starves all races equally.

Chinese? China is a nation, not a race.

Thugs? Chinese thugs would be the racist ones for culturally appropriating black people.

Cries of racist have zero power over me.

Actually, that’s not true.

It encourages me.

setnaffa
setnaffa
4 months ago

Socialism in Africa by Thomas Sowell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RUPC2Qd8dU

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Korean Man
Korean Man
4 months ago

South Korea provided more ammunition to Ukraine than all of Europe combined, reports the Washington Post.

https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20231205000300315

Without South Korean help, does the US even have any ammo left to spare to keep the war going, not just in Ukraine, but also elsewhere if another war pops up somewhere?

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
4 months ago

“South Korea provided more ammunition to Ukraine than all of Europe combined, reports the Washington Post.”

Unpossible!

Korea can’t send ammunition to a war zone!

They must have let everyone else supply ammunition to a war zone and then supplied ammunition to everyone else.

I see what you did there, Korea. The Russians seem fooled so far.

What’s that, you say?

They are RENTING the ammunition?

Korean Man
Korean Man
4 months ago

Chickenhead, I think the charade is pretty much over. The Russians aren’t stupid. In retaliation against South Korea, they’re courting North Korea, and giving them rocket technology that will turn the poor quality long-range nuke missiles to reach all of American cities. In return, Russia gets millions of former Soviet-made weapons from North Korea. This is what South Korea wanted to avoid, but the US forced this on South Korea which has been doing a lot of America’s bidding lately (despite all the badmouthing coming from your politicians and US media) including even giving Americans, manufacturing jobs.

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ChickenHead
ChickenHead
4 months ago

Not many downsides here.

Let’s look.

“In retaliation against South Korea, they’re courting North Korea, and giving them rocket technology that will turn the poor quality long-range nuke missiles to reach all of American cities.”

Some day, that will be South Korean rocket technology. Crafty!

Nuking an American city with a rocket is so 1980s. Put it on a boat and pull up next to the city. Cheap, effective, and low risk of failure. People fretting about rockets are trapped in a small cognative box.

“In return, Russia gets millions of former Soviet-made weapons from North Korea.”

That’s what happens when you FAFO. All Ukraine had to do was not try to join NATO and not hassle the Russian speakers.

Russia has no plan (or possibility) to hold land populated by people who dislike Russia. The “Red Army Will be in Lisbon by Chrismas” crowd played you.

If nobody pokes at Russia, it doesn’t matter how many Soviet-era weapons they have.

“This is what South Korea wanted to avoid”

No they didn’t. South Korea is getting into the business of selling weapons. You can’t sell weapons if everybody is in a drum circle singing Kumbaya. Korea wants the war in Ukraine to go on and on and on. No downsides for Korea. Korea will now sell modern weapons to Europe so they can counter all the NK Soviet weapons.

I’m starting to think NK and SK are in on this together.

“but the US forced this on South Korea which has been doing a lot of America’s bidding lately (despite all the badmouthing coming from your politicians and US media) including even giving Americans, manufacturing jobs.”

Ha! You think America’s reshoring is giving Americans manufacturing jobs? You have been listening to the politicians.

About 64% of global manufacturing jobs are possible to replace with automation (McKinsey). The type of manufacturing being taken away from Korea is much higher than that.

Factories are moving to America but this is not just America’s demand. “Korean” companies, which are now mostly international investor-owned multinationals, have figured out a way to cut out the Korean unions and shipping costs.

Robots will be doing the jobs Americans aren’t needed to do.

Korean Person
Korean Person
4 months ago

That’s what happens when you FAFO. All Ukraine had to do was not try to join NATO and not hassle the Russian speakers.

Russia has no plan (or possibility) to hold land populated by people who dislike Russia. The “Red Army Will be in Lisbon by Chrismas” crowd played you.

If nobody pokes at Russia, it doesn’t matter how many Soviet-era weapons they have.

It’s statements like the above that show without a doubt, that setnaffa and his sockpuppets(aka Setnaffarians) are indeed Russiabots.

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
4 months ago

Ah yes.

Those who speak the truth are:

– Russiabots
– science deniers
– racists

…and probably a few more titles.

You sound like a Pollak. They have a pathological hatred/fear of Russia. They really believe Russia is planning to invade and occupy Poland…

…without seeming to notice that it is hard enough to invade Eastern Ukraine where the locals are happy they arrived.

America is quite clever at manipulating Poland with this.

The fear of Russia should not be in them using military action to take back oppressed land that is culturally close.

The fear of Russia is that they are now looking to play nice in the 3rd world and will likely beat America out of some sweet economic opportunities.

setnaffa
setnaffa
4 months ago

Communism doesn’t work because people like to own stuff.
— Frank Zappa

setnaffa
setnaffa
4 months ago

To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.
— Thomas Paine

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
4 months ago

How about another vaccine update!

A researcher (Speicher) looking into some extra doses of Pfizer covid vaccine found a lot of DNA contamination. They greatly exceeded FDA guidelines in quantity and length.

That got everyone’s attention.

It is now established that the Pfizer covid vaccine has a shocking amount of DNA contamination (>500x) as well as a mechanism to get the DNA inside cells and encourage it to integrate (lipid nanoparticles).

Let’s look at what happened, and let’s see how it is being managed.

Pfizer did shoddy human testing for a few months with the covid vaccine. (We are now learning just how shoddy).

But when it came time to produce large quantities, they found the old process wouldn’t scale.

So they used a different process… that… made… a… different vaccine.

…an untested vaccine.

Until it was tested on you.

Their records call these PCR-amplified (Process 1) and Linearized plasmid DNA (Process 2).

(Moderna used process 2 for both trials and production.)

Think about this. We are learning that Process 1 had a great deal of fraud in its testing. Now we know Process 2 was never tested.

How do we know?

Inquires to the FDA had them respond that tests were still “ongoing”.

But a Freedom of Information Act request brought this revelation from an FDA document.

“…in October 2020 an exploratory objective was added in the C4591001 study to describe safety and immunogenicity of vaccines produced by manufacturing “Process 1” or “Process 2” in participants 16 to 55 years of age. This exploratory objective was removed and documented in protocol amendment 20 in September 2022 due to the extensive usage of vaccines manufactured via “Process 2”. Thus, this process comparison was not conducted as part of the formal documentation within the protocol amendment.”

It seems the comparison between Process 1 and Process 2 was not done… because… it was done… on people taking the vaccine.

It explains all the statistical trickery and obfuscation we saw if the general vaccine, made with the untested Process 2, was having a high level of issues… as it was tested… on… the public.

(We already know the trials with Process 1 vaccines were only marginally effective for a short time and had side effects not observed in the placebo group.)

So what does the FDA have to say about this?

Remeber how, before the covid vaccine, “Any heart inflamation is considered a medical emergency and you must seek immediate medical attention,” but after the covid vaccine, “Heart inflamation after the vaccine is exceedingly rare and most cases resolve on their own without treatment.”

Same-same.

Before the covid vaccine, FDA guidelines said, “There are several potential mechanisms by which residual DNA could be oncogenic, including the integration and expression of encoded oncogenes or insertional mutagenesis following DNA integration.”

Oncogenic means “gives you cancer.”

But to DNA in covid vaccines, the FDA said, “While concerns have been raised previously as theoretical issues, available scientific evidence supports the conclusion that the minute amounts of residual DNA do not cause cancer, or changes to a person’s genetic code.”

It might not even matter.

The covid vaccine has lipid nanoparticals specifically designed to get mRNA (and DNA) into cells.

Can we compare a small amount of DNA outside the cell and a large amount of DNA in a sea of molecules designed to open the cell.

On a side note, there is a correlation between batches with a high degree of contamination and side effects.

We know certain batches has many more side effects than others.

So that is the current situation.

Now we wait for cancer… something that takes years or decades.

Well… I don’t wait for cancer.

Sleep tight, my little vaxtards.

setnaffa
setnaffa
4 months ago

As I am 65, I will be terribly sorry that I manage to outlive most of the vaxtards I formerly counted on to fund Social Security.

But the odds are I have 20 years left, and I wouldn’t bet on the odds for those fully vaxxed and boosted…

However. When you die, can I have your computer gear?

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
4 months ago

Here is something not to touch with a 10 li pole.

(Partially because you can’t lift a 5km long pole and partially because you won’t be invited to any Korean parties ever again.)

I wisely believe these two charlatans were bribed by the Japanese to make it all up after a 3 day toad licking bender.

You may form a different opinion.

https://www.amazon.com/Comfort-Women-Hoax-Memoir-Academic/dp/1641773456

setnaffa
setnaffa
4 months ago

Allegedly crazy Chinese man blows up house as police approach.

https://twitter.com/ywnreporter/status/1731854913632669742

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