ROK Drop Open Thread – November 14, 2025

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setnaffa
setnaffa
5 months ago

NBC is reporting some korean workers previously detained by US Immigration are back on the job. One assumes their employer filled out the right paperwork this time.

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
5 months ago

“One assumes their employer filled out the right paperwork this time.”

You know what they say in Korea.

Assume makes an àss out of Yoo-mi.

Don’t do that to her.

Gx2SG2bXAAA6Bun
setnaffa
setnaffa
5 months ago

Well, it’s better than making consommé out of her bones…

But yes, it does assume facts not in evidence.

Liz
Liz
5 months ago

There are claims (just heading this off before a forum troll throws it out there) that miltiary members are “seeking outside legal council” over the legalities related to military strikes. The article is written as though people are going to their own private attorney to seek answers on the ROE.
It is all so beyond stupid it makes the former journalist claims look like Euclidean proofs.

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
5 months ago

Nobody is blowing up druggie boats in international waters without a team of high-power lawyers having a solid legal framework.

This is why Trump has never been “marched out of the White House in handcuffs.”

Best I can tell, everything is perfectly legal under US law… though not necessarily “international law”.

But we all know international law is bullshìt that everyone noisily points at when it serves their interests and completely ignores when it does not.

Sooooo…

There is almost certainly a legal memo containing:

– intelligence tying certain cartels to hostile foreign actors

– evidence of cartel armed capacity

– proof of stateless navigation

– justification under Article 51 (self-defense)

– classification of operations as part of an ongoing armed conflict

…and that memo is how military lawyers protect the operation.

We only see the surface.

…because the media only shows us the surface and then starts going on about iNtErNaTiOnAl LaW.

And maybe, just maybe, some woke libtard military member believes all this and doesn’t want to be accused of “just following orders” if international law comes for them so they asked a lawyer what they should do.

A good lawyer said, “nothing”.

A great lawyer said, “Pay my retainer and Ibwill protect you.”

The truth is America would nuke the Hauge before allowing “international law” to come after a military member doing official military things…

…at least if it interfered with official military things.

setnaffa
setnaffa
5 months ago

To further CH’s point about International Law, they banned “dumdum bullets” as causing too much damage: but 155mm artillery shells and 2000lb bombs that cause more damage are completely acceptable.

Liz
Liz
5 months ago

It’s not only international lawyers…military JAGs (on our side) can be pretty ridiculous too. There was a case years ago a pilot dropped two bombs on the same target and the JAG claimed it was “excessive”. The pilot explained he needed to make sure it worked (it was a target that was very hard to get to).

Liz
Liz
5 months ago

The CDC website has changed.
Now under “vaccines and autism” it states this:

“Vaccines do not cause Autism*Pursuant to the Data Quality Act (DQA), which requires federal agencies to ensure the quality, objectivity, utility, and integrity of information they disseminate to the public, this webpage has been updated because the statement “Vaccines do not cause autism” is not an evidence-based claim. Scientific studies have not ruled out the possibility that infant vaccines contribute to the development of autism. However, this statement has historically been disseminated by the CDC and other federal health agencies within HHS to prevent vaccine hesitancy.”

Unrelated, I think I’ve posted this before but just in case…
folks should try to avoid contrast MRI dye unless it is absolutely necessary. It uses gadolinium, a metal that the FDA now warns is retained in the body…including the brain and bones.
This is true even of people with normal kidney function.
The FDA wants to reassure everyone that no neurological effects have been conclusively proven, however. I’m sure it is somewhere in the literature book they ask you to read right before the procedure while they stand there and look at you impatiently.
FWIW, I’ve had patients who went into kidney failure after this procedure…and they did not even know there was a risk. Currently, unless you are in kidney failure they do not even test for kidney function before administering this dye, which they do pretty routinely.

setnaffa
setnaffa
5 months ago

Thanks, , I’ve had roughly 20 MRIs in the last 10 years, so I asked my doctor about it…

Liz
Liz
5 months ago

They don’t always use contrast dye. And sometimes it is necessary, but if there are options it’s good to avoid if/when possible.

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
5 months ago

That explains why I couldn’t find gadolinium supplements in anything over 500 IU.

Do you think I should take fewer than 6 with lunch and dinner?

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
5 months ago

We discussed the media link posted by one of the Korea Things that intentionally misrepresented the situation in Argentina.

Let’s see if there is another.

WSJ headline via MSN:

U.S. Banks Shelve $20 Billion Bailout Plan for Argentina

That is absolutely true. The banks were going to bail out Argentina and now they are not. They didn’t just change their minds. They SHELVED it.

This is probably becasue of some failed Trump policy.

Let’s be a rare reader who respects ourself enough to read past the headlines before forming an opinion.

“The bailouts were announced when Milei’s government seemed under pressure, but congressional elections in October were seen as a resounding victory for his party. That result sent the country’s bonds and currency rallying.”

Oh.

It was shelved because of success rather than failure.

Noted.

Korean Person
Korean Person
5 months ago

Yes ChickenHead is correct.

One should look beyond the headlines.

From the same WSJ

The ‘JPMorgan Boys’ Behind the U.S. Bailout for Argentina

President Javier Milei’s administration is packed with former Wall Street traders trying to steer market forces

Now Caputo is orchestrating the trade of a lifetime, persuading the U.S. government to go all-in on President Javier Milei just when it seemed his economic overhaul of Argentina was in jeopardy. Caputo and Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, a former currency trader himself, came up with a $20 billion American rescue plan for Argentina that has drawn some credit for Milei’s surprisingly good showing in pivotal midterm elections last month.

The economic overhaul of Argentina was in jeopardy.

Who would have guessed.

Of course Argentina will get the money in one form or another.

From the same article that ChickenHead mentioned

Instead, banks are focused on plans to lend Argentina around $5 billion through a short-term repurchase, or “repo” facility, where Argentina would exchange a portfolio of investments for dollars from the banks, the people said. 

Argentina would be expected to use the dollars to make a coming debt payment of around $4 billion in January, the people said. 

So Argentina is in trouble.

Trump tried to bail it out with $20 billion.

But since the banks weren’t sure about whether Argentina can repay, they will for now loan Argentina $4 billion so that it can make a debt repayment in January.

As always ChickenHead, excuse me delves in fake news and misinformation.

Liz
Liz
5 months ago

A currency swap is not a bailout.

Liz
Liz
5 months ago

CH, MRIs with contrast aren’t the only diagnostic tool for all things. Contrast dye with iodine, used in CT scans is far less deleterious for example. It’s unfortunate one has to be one’s own patient advocate now (at least in the US, I’m not familiar with medicine in other places).
Ask about alternatives, and cost to gains.

Liz
Liz
5 months ago

This link has a chart with some risk factors (and some ways to minimize risk, if the procedure is necessary):
https://udshealth.com/blog/hidden-risks-mri-contrast/

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
5 months ago

“It’s unfortunate one has to be one’s own patient advocate now”

Do not cite the Deep Magic to me, Witch! I was there when it was written.

…and it was both Safe and Effective.

Liz
Liz
5 months ago

Haha! True that CH.

Liz
Liz
5 months ago

I’ll give you a recent example (them I’m off the healthcare bandwagon) Just a personal anecdote. This is kinda long, sorry in advance.

My spouse had another heart arrhythmia a few weeks back and we went to the ER. He spent the night there and his heart went back into regular rhythm on its own, during the night. He was on the telemetry floor so his heart was monitored the entire time, and the nurses came in more than once during the night because his heart rate was so low (in the 30s), just to ask if he was “okay”. It is normal for him, for that to happen (I’m not rambling, this is information is for later context).

The cardiologist comes in the morning and puts him on Amiodarone. This is a pretty serious medication for what he had, I thought (atrial flutter), considering he wasn’t in a flutter anymore. When I was a nurse, it was used for very serious V Tach, but I thought things must’ve changed…and I was never an ICU nurse let alone a cardiologist so what did I know. They had him walk around for about an hour and a half after dosing him with Amiodarone and gave him a prescription.
Twice daily, once in the morning and once at night before bed.
He takes his nighttime medication and I look at the bottle and it says bradycardia (low heart rate) is a “contraindication”. He has just taken a med that is contraindicated for his night time condition. We call the nurse hotline for the cardiologist. She hesitantly indicates it “should be alright” for him to go to sleep. I stay up and monitor his heart rate for the first half of the night. In the morning I go to the pharmacist and ask, because there are no parameters on the medication for heart rate and I’m unsure how low it should be allowed to go before withholding.
He looks at me pie-eyed and says I need to talk to the cardiologist.
I call the office and the cardiologist is on vacation but they found her and she said to withhold the night time dose that she had just prescribed. The next week in the office his heart rate was in the 40s and she said to just stop taking it.

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